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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 17, 2012 8:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: US Gun Law Reform - a conversation -

More cherry picking. Here's a nationwide study. Open your eyes Mando. I live in DC, by the way. Not the burbs, the city.

By the way, the Supremes famously struck down DC's efforts to tighten gun laws. In other words, local efforts in my hometown to institute sane gun safety law,s were defeated by people who live behind electric fences in the burbs.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Dec 17, 2012 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: US Gun Law Reform - a conversation -

Here's more for your cherry picking.

Given that my home in the US is also DC, I checked out the crime stats. DC murders last year were 132; in the US, over 14,748. (Unfortunately you can't check crime rates by neighborhood without subscribing, but maybe there are other sites.)

So, wow, almost 15,000. Given that I do think int'l comparison is relevant -- not definitive, but relevant -- I looked up the UK. Crime is at a 30 year low; 550 homicides last year.

OK, gotta adjust for population. That's just England plus Wales (roughly 56 million), so multiply by 6. We get 3300 (populated adjusted) vs 14-15,000. Then all that rape, robbery and assault in the US.

Compare that to this part from the UK, which is pretty interesting:

>There were 30,999 offences involving a knife or sharp instrument, a 5% decrease compared with 2010-11
Provisional data shows 5,911 firearm offences were recorded - 16% down - of which 39 resulted in a death

So yes, they get gun crime. But people are not mainly dying. And yes, they get crimes of anger with other weapons. But again, people are not mainly dying.

Anyway, speaking to the converted here, but I thought you might find those cherries interesting.